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20 hours ago, El_Tortuga said:

Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.0 "The Canyon" 1.65 - Mar 21, 2020

Lap Time: 2.12.567 (Aim Solo)

Ambient temperature: 55, Sunny, Breezy

Car: 2014 Mustang GT

Estimated weight with driver: 3935 lbs

Estimated whp: 365-385 HP

Tires: Bridgestone S007 305/30/19

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The big girl dances well! You look comfortably uncomfortable! That's a great thing...those tires were screaming for MERCY...and you gave them no quarter! I like it!!! Keep it up!

 

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On ‎3‎/‎23‎/‎2020 at 11:40 AM, Captain Buddha said:

The big girl dances well! You look comfortably uncomfortable! That's a great thing...those tires were screaming for MERCY...and you gave them no quarter! I like it!!! Keep it up!

 

Thanks. The big girl and I have a longstanding relationship so we are starting to know our limits. :) I strive for tires singing a consistent note. Maybe someday ;) Boy Howdy, are they vocal @ ECR,

No quarter is right. I'm in "kill all tires" mode. Or at least kill the unloved Bridgestones. F 'em. I'm VERY excited to get off of the S007s, they are very difficult to manage in the trail braking transitions especially. Slower and trickier to drive than RS-4s. I've had to be much more conservative which sucks as I was kind of coming to grips with how to use more corner and less brakes to slow down.  They have served their purpose and bridged the gap to 2020 tires. I came home Saturday to 6 brand new RS-4s on my front doorstep. RS-4s are faster, much more forgiving, and more durable too. I've effectively got 2 sets stacked in my son's bedroom ready to go. WIN-WIN-WIN. 

Now to get the clutch healthy, CVD-19 and oil prices where they need to be, and more liquidity in my finances. That's all I need and its GAME ON. Probably will have to just settle for healthy clutch before I'm jump back in the game. As always a work in progress, in all aspects of my life.

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Far from a clean lap but this is the best I could string together on Saturday. 

Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 Italian Canyon - April 18, 2020
Lap Time: 2:20.4 (AiM Solo)
Ambient temperature: 70 degrees F
Car: 2008 Mazda Miata
Estimated weight with driver: ~2700 lbs
Estimated whp: ~145 RWHP
Tires Front: Federal 595 RSR 215/45-17
Tires Rear: Hankook RS4 215/45-17

 

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Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 Italian Canyon - April 25, 2020
Lap Time: 2:03.56 (AiM Solo) unfortunately my gopro battery died so no video 😞
Ambient temperature: 70 degrees F
Car: 2007 GT3
Estimated weight with driver: ~3450 lbs
Estimated whp: ~370 RWHP
Tires 235/305 Pirelli DH scrubs
 

 

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Went out with my neighbor in his Spec E46 last Sunday for it's first track day after build.  We chased understeer the entire morning and never got it sorted.  The rear seems too low and was chewing the outside of the RRs pretty badly.  Raising the rear and swapping out the rear bar.

The car should turn 2:15s give or take with someone terrible like myself behind the wheel. 

Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 Italian Canyon - May 03, 2020
Lap Time: 2:17.1 AiM Solo 2
Ambient temperature: 80s  F
Car: 2004 E46 330i SPEC E46
Estimated weight with driver: ~ 2875 lbs
Estimated whp: ~218 RWHP
Tires 255/17 RRs

Didn't run video for some reason.

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Track:  ECR 2.7 CCW - May 20, 2020 Open Track Day.  Very close to pulling the trigger on ECR membership.

Lap Time:  2:06:57 - last several laps in 2:06s.  Still chasing Blake's time in the 2:04s with similar car and setup

Ambient Temp:  80s F

Car: 2012 E92 M3 with MCS singles and Stoptech Trophy brakes - otherwise my stock DD

Estimated weight with driver:  3800 lbs

Estimated WHP:  360 RWHP

Tires:  spent scrubs - 285/645/18 Pirelli DHs

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, dbyrd said:

Track:  ECR 2.7 CCW - May 20, 2020 Open Track Day.  Very close to pulling the trigger on ECR membership.

Lap Time:  2:06:57 - last several laps in 2:06s.  Still chasing Blake's time in the 2:04s with similar car and setup

Very nice!!

Regarding pulling the trigger on ECR membership...reference my post on the current special:

 

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Track:  ECR 2.7 CCW - June 14, 2020

Lap Time:  2:25.631

Ambient Temp:  90s F

Car: 1991 Miata with BP4W engine swap

Estimated weight with driver:  2300 lbs

Estimated WHP:  100 RWHP

Tires:  225/45/15 Hankook RS4

I’ve been consistently able to hit a 2:28, with 2:26s when I’m really pushing, my goal for the weekend was to see a 2:25. This was the very last session of the day and I finally got it! 

 

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Track:  ECR 2.7 CCW - February 01, 2020

Lap Time:  2:13.886

Ambient Temp:  50s F

Car: Honda Civic Type R

Estimated weight with driver:  3100 lbs

Estimated WHP:  ~300

Tires:  255/40 R18 Hankook RS4

 

Never got around to rendering my data + footage from back in february, figured now would be the time since I guess while it's hot my car is completely different (my best during time trial nationals was a 2:17.8xx). Can't wait for the temps to go down so I can go back to enjoying my car 😛

As always, tips appreciated, if there's anywhere I can approve, i'd love to hear it. 
 

 

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Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.0 "The Canyon" 1.65  CLOCKWISE - Sep 7, 2020

Lap Time: 1.22.747 (Aim Solo)

Ambient temperature: 80-95, Sunny, 

Car: 2014 Mustang GT

Estimated weight with driver: 3935 lbs

Estimated whp: 365-385 HP???

Tires: Hankook RS-4s 305/30/19

First time Clockwise at pace and it did not disappoint. Fast, technical, and thrilling. It will definitely reward or punish you as you get it right or wrong. Here is my (1st session) starting point:

https://youtu.be/7ZIPGE2VZ3Q

This lap from a later session is better driving, but warmer conditions are considerably worse so lap was just a tick slower (1.22.759).

https://youtu.be/32KsIvUJdUQ

Its a good starting point for me, but a long laundry list to work on.

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Was hoping to break into the teens but missed the mark by a couple tenths. Still hit a PB and had an illegal amount of fun in the process. Sorry about the awful sound quality.

Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 Italian Canyon - September 19, 2020
Lap Time: 2:20.2 (AiM Solo)
Ambient temperature: ~80 degrees F
Car: 2008 Mazda Miata
Estimated weight with driver: ~2700 lbs
Estimated whp: ~145 RWHP
Tires Front: Federal 595 RSR 215/45-17
Tires Rear: Hankook RS4 215/45-17

 

 

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First time out at ECR with TDE this past weekend. The track is definitely nice. I'm used to Cresson where there I do very little thresh hold braking, so my lack of skill in that department definitely shows here. I'm relatively happy with this time for a first visit though. Feel free to roast me on where I mess things up.

ECR 2.7 CCW
Date: Sep 20, 2020
Lap time: 2:13.667 with Aim Solo
Car: 1995 BMW M3
Estimated total vehicle weight with driver: 2900
Estimated wheel horsepower: 250
Tire size and model: 255/40/17 RS4
Estimated ambient temperature: 70's

 

 

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20 hours ago, SpaceRangerJoe said:

First time out at ECR with TDE this past weekend. The track is definitely nice. I'm used to Cresson where there I do very little thresh hold braking, so my lack of skill in that department definitely shows here. I'm relatively happy with this time for a first visit though. Feel free to roast me on where I mess things up.

ECR 2.7 CCW
Date: Sep 20, 2020
Lap time: 2:13.667 with Aim Solo
Car: 1995 BMW M3
Estimated total vehicle weight with driver: 2900
Estimated wheel horsepower: 250
Tire size and model: 255/40/17 RS4
Estimated ambient temperature: 70's

Overall it looks very nice! A few little things: I think you might be turning in a little early, especially on T1 and T3. Use more of the apex curbing as well as the track out curbing. A few little things here and there add up to big improvements over time. Also - the bottom of the canyon, that's one nice, big, beautiful arc, work on that if you can. Hope this helps! And, welcome to ECR!!

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I agree with Brad.  I noticed that you tend to lift at apex 3B.  Try tracking out further to the edge between T3a and T3b.  It gives you a better line on exit allowing you to stay on throttle.

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Sounds good, thank you both. This is the first new track I've had to learn since I started this hobby ~6 years ago. Having to learn a track while also learning how to drive is definitely more difficult than just having to pick up a new track.

Some of the curbs out there seem to be SUPER slick, so I started avoiding them. I know some of them can be useful, just need to know which ones are still good to hit. I'm definitely over slowing in some places. Once I can pick up that minimum speed, momentum should be carry me to track out a bit better. The track is so smooth I think tightening up the rear shocks a bit to help with on throttle rotation might be nice. I don't really know anything about car setup though, so it might just turn into a drift track!

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Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.0 "The Canyon" 1.65  CLOCKWISE - Sep 27, 2020

Lap Time: 1.22.459 (Aim Solo)

Ambient temperature: 85 ?

Car: 2014 Mustang GT

Estimated weight with driver: 3935 lbs

Estimated whp: 365-385 HP???

Tires: Hankook RS-4s 305/30/19

Reset my PB 3 times, but only for a total of .3. I'm pleased with progress, but am going to make some suspension changes. Its a challenge to get the power down out of the tight right handers. With 3 of them leading out into the straights its pretty important.

 

Fun course.

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Track: Eagles Canyon Raceway - Oct 18, 2020

Lap Time: 2:12.72 (Aim Solo)

Ambient temperature: 75, Sunny, Breezy

Car: 2001 BMW M Coupe

Estimated weight with driver: 3200 lbs

Estimated whp: ~300 WHP

Tires: NT01s

First weekend on the Italian Canyon and I’m in love. Did 2 weekends last Fall on the short track, and while it is fun, there just isn’t much variation. That is NOT a problem on the big layout. I was lucky and chased some fast drivers around on Saturday and tried out about every line I could until I started to get a feel for the layout. Car was setup loose this weekend, so I did a lot of sliding around and about wasted a fairly new set of NT01s in the process, but now I know where there’s grip and where I need to wait it out until the tires hook up. 
 

It’ll be a day or two before I get a video up, but I’ll post it when my slow phone finishes it’s upload.  

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Bob - wanted to come out and spectate on Saturday but the day got away from us...so, glad you had fun at ECR!! This Saturday....we are running the full course BACKWARDS!! Going to be epic! You should come out! I plan on running it. I haven't ran backwards here since the old layout...and I LOVED it!

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How many people drive off the end of the front straight into the wall down there when going backwards?

 

BTW, how hard is ECR on brakes now?  I haven't been in yeears and am prepping for the Nov race.  front pads are down to 30%- do I replace now, or just take a spare set to the track?  I don't quite have a feel of lifespan on consumables yet..  Maybe I should throw new ones on and take some measurements as they wear? (heaven forbid recording data)

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15 minutes ago, Matt93SE said:

How many people drive off the end of the front straight into the wall down there when going backwards?

 

BTW, how hard is ECR on brakes now?  I haven't been in yeears and am prepping for the Nov race.  front pads are down to 30%- do I replace now, or just take a spare set to the track?  I don't quite have a feel of lifespan on consumables yet..  Maybe I should throw new ones on and take some measurements as they wear? (heaven forbid recording data)

I’m not sure that my experience is totally valid since I was just learning the layout and used my brakes HARD, but I used more pad than I would’ve for a weekend at MSR as a comparison. You’ve got at least 3 - 100+ MPH straights where you have to jump on them hard for slow corners, and there isn’t much time between hard use for them to cool before you hit the next braking zone. 

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51 minutes ago, Captain Buddha said:

Bob - wanted to come out and spectate on Saturday but the day got away from us...so, glad you had fun at ECR!! This Saturday....we are running the full course BACKWARDS!! Going to be epic! You should come out! I plan on running it. I haven't ran backwards here since the old layout...and I LOVED it!

Turn 5 backwards is going to be fun. I predict a lot of 4 wheeling in the infield. 

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1 hour ago, BobKid said:

Turn 5 backwards is going to be fun. I predict a lot of 4 wheeling in the infield. 

So will T14!! On the old layout I used changes in pavement, cracks, squiggles, etc. as reference points...this time, it's ALL fresh, so it will be a learning experience!

Matt: ts was dropping down into the Canyon (the old T10) that was the PUCKER factor! And coming up blind for the back straight. ECR is still HARD on brakes...You might run the front pads for just one session, I'd recommend full pads though...and spares!

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I'd agree with @BobKid on the brakes. I only have MSR-C to compare to, but I used TON more brake at ECR. My rear pads were low before I started, so I threw a new set on before a weekend there. I could see the amount of pad material drop throughout the day, and I have a fairly light and relatively slow car. I could see the difference in brake fluid reservoir level as well. MSR-C is a lot of quick brake and chuck it into the corner. ECR has a lore more places to really get on the brakes and stay there.

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Thanks all.   new pads it is then.  It'll be a good reference to start from since I'm going to *attempt* to turn a new leaf actually paying attention to tuning, setup, data, etc.   for the last 10 years, I've just checked the car before the race and sent it..  with the new (to me) car, I'm going to try to actually pay attention to this crap and work to improve the car instead of just go make laps with whatever setup I have.

 

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